The senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale's resignation comes amid reports of an affair scandal and admitting tocheatingon his wife, Diane Coy. Too many people look at their pastor or sr. pastor, vs.the congregation being pointed to the Lord. and help keep the future of New Times, Use of this website constitutes acceptance of our. thoughts? Sin nature is pervasive no matter who you are in church culture. Did the Holy Spirit reveal this to you? The Bible is inerrant. That thing being, Luther is never wrong, in your estimation. people need to vent, to be angry, to feel betrayed and to weep. Thank you. A man of that importance-you dont think would have been brought before the congregation and prayed off as they have done in the past with others who have left? It would also give her the opportunity to stop worrying as much. I dont the adulterer always chooses to dishonor and humiliate his wife. I like Bob, I served there for over a decade and he has proclaimed from the pulpit he struggles in the area of pride and women. What happened at Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? Im concerned with those whose lives have been shattered by Bob Coys choices. MLD, I dont know anything about Babylons Dread. We are told 20,000 attend the church. Im what you call a baby Christian. I pray Coy takes the time needed before he returns to the ministry. Just my two cents. We all sin, but this is heartbreaking. so it takes two to tango? And only because I am entering a different stage of grief which is anger Pastor Chinelly and Pastor Fidel Gomez were both unfaithful to their wives. Lorenzo is in great need to know about Jesus from the gospels. Many of the Bobbleheads are imputing motive, spiritual condition, and knowledge of the secret sins of those who object to Bobs infidelity. Googlogian. Hugh, You showed nother in John 6. oh yes garbage. Michael, you know that this thread is going to deteriorate. Why? To all of those who are criticizing: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. And the leak from the board was no doubt insurance against a coup detat of bob-loyalists attempting to unseat the floundering-shell-shocked and in charge for the very first time board. May the Lord forgive each one of you, as well, who are rejoicing in the fall of a beloved preacher. I think they had about 10 so far. In other news: It has been confirmed Goonies 2 is happening! I dont know if I can remember everything I said. You will tow the line no matter what. The detective told her that he couldn't destroy the files, but he closed the case that day. Mary! "But we need to remember it is Jesus Christ who is our leader and not man.". Someday, all our sins will be revealed, you may be surprised who has hidden this type of sin, how prevalent it is, and how many are struggling to not be exposed for fear of being treated like we are treating Bob Coy. MacArthur is being grossly misrepresented here. Youre right. one more bad guy to add to the never ending. to 666/Bob we dont even know what the mark truly is some say it is symbolic, some say physical and some say mental:(. Is there a man here who would go over and console Coy at the expense of his sister. By the end of that harrowing call on August 20, 2015, police knew the accused predator was no ordinary suspect. Huge crowds hung on his every word. Thankfully, this isnt my first rodeo. Ixtlan, Yes I completely understand this. He died on the cross as sacrifice for our sins according to the Scriptures. Hes a great teaching no matter what. Not only has she been publicly shamed, in front of her friends, family and all whom she held dear, but she has been shamed by a husband who found her lacking and inadequate. Im still waiting! AND YES I KNOW THEY ARE CONNECTED AND PRIDE COMES BEFORE Ive seen knock out hot girls in tight dresses looking more like they are going clubbing than to Gods house stand in line to get a picture with him, he was your Pastor girls and MARRIED hes not a freakin rock star. This dynamic makes guys like Coy hide their sin for a long time b/c they know if theyre caught, the game is up and theyre exposed for not being saved or not being specially anointed etc in the CC mindsetand they lose their power and career. "I can't discuss it on the record," the former pastor, who managed a casino with exotic dancers in Las Vegas before committing his life to Christ, said when approached in October. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. Hey, Open Blogging was closed and I would usually post something like this there, but I really liked this book and wanted people to get a review of it and see why I liked it. Did Jesus forget or had he not yet read the play book? So we have to have a discussion on the subject: What exactly is church? BD, how can you say youre not a Calvinist and yet stand idly by while they pervert the scriptures and negate the truth and promises of God, sounds like youve been brainwashed by 600 years of lies! I struggle with hate for it, and my own self image because of It. Im sure he sins just like the rest of us. The following exposes present facts about John Macarthur that he needed to know and we tried to explain, but to no avail: http://watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur-1-mark-of-beast.html http://watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur-2-slave-book.html http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/. Michael, mainstream christian media is PR only. Stop this! CAKEGATE 2023: Bad Bunny's Restaurant Accused of Gobbling Birthday Girl's Cake, Death Train: A Timeline of Brightline Fatalities in South Florida UPDATED, Neighborhood Nazi Jon Minadeo Peddles Hate by the Minute, Sen. Rubio's Permanent Daylight Savings Bill Sees Light of Day Once More, NFL Legend Ray Lewis Joins World Jai-Alai League Board of Directors, Affordable New "Micro-Units" Slated for Little River, Edgewater. I felt the call to stand up for righteousness and expose this pastor after I learned of the many women who suffered the same thing before me and had many people come against me for that, too, which really hurt. take y words and spiritualize them.. God bless you Pastor Bob, Diane and your children. He boasted of a vast media reach. Calvary was among the first churches in the nation to air podcasts, stream services online, and simulcast sermons at satellite campuses (the church had opened campuses in Plantation and Boca). RiBo, A man posted yesterday on FB that something like 40% of pastors struggle with some sort of sexual sin. fllynn, when you describe their teachings as garbage and nonsense, it isnt the truth it is your ungracious interpretation. It is just people like we PhoenixPreacher-ites who dont follow the rules that leave. They had the opportunity to speak clearly to this before anyone else. "God is with us all who learn and grow so much from a man who always reminded us he was human and not one is perfect not even Pastor Bob but God gave him a purpose and he did well by God. Were there other abuse claims against Coy during the nearly three decades he controlled Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? We should have stoned that adulterer. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. You, however, are Martin Luthers disciple, so we know where to find the beliefs you swiped. He was the son of Joe Gibbs, a five-time NASCAR Cup Series championship winning owner and Pro Football Hall of Famer. Flynn, He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven. , You obviously do not understand how numbers are used in Daniel. 3. (I use the term Coy-ite because both mother and daughter were mesmerized by Coy and his comedic style in speaking.) The Peter comparison is not unreasonable. I'll never forget that meeting.". [5] It is acclaimed as one of the great expressions of automotive customization. If you want to play silly games it will not last long. He had other associate pastors go publicly in front of the congregation after their infidelity. And then you want me to take the 1,000 yrs as literal when there has been nothing literal in the chapter? Vince hated that Sharon wasnt thinking about them, but he couldnt stop thinking about them. How many people attend your church, I want to make sure your crusading vendetta against CC is not born out of jealousy, for a work that God has raised up in these last days and the devil through people like you is attacking incessantly! You wont get hard news from them on one of the Sacred Cowsunless maybe a Ted Haggard b/c it was dude on dude. Then, on July 18, police arrested 41-year-old Roshad Thomas, who had spent 13 years as a volunteer youth pastor at Calvary Chapel Tallahassee. 1828 edition of Websters. We had to depend on recommended books and the Lord.and blogs like this. Im asking sincere questions. Well the subject is that is Bob Coy is not fit to be a Pastor because of his sexual indiscretions. ALL in South Florida. When all you know about a position is the way it is caricatured you should avoid comment. Confession is step one. You keep making claims that are revealing of your stature. Like some kind of fog was around them. Hmmmm.wonder how you wouldve responded when the adulteress was thrown down at Jesus feet.and he responded let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her. I showed you that nothing in the passage is literal which would include the 1,000 yrs and you defaulted to the chains are real. Lets talk about how 1,000 is used in scriture Jesus owns the cattle on a 1,000 hills literal or figurative (figurative is the answer or, who owns the cattle on hill #1,001?) Anonymous? The Bible, uniquely and fully inspired by the Holy Spirit, is the supreme and final authority on all matters on which it speaks. You only want those who will tell you how smart and how right you are? As it is biblical to do so. You surely mustve know that stealing was wrong or dealing drugs was wrong or fornicating was wrong etc. Every man of God gets tempted by the three Gs.. Im learning all about a day in the life of MLD. And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well! He has been the father and leader of a house. donny, I asked politely. His attorneys, meanwhile, persuaded a judge with deep Republican ties to seal the ex-pastor's divorce file to protect Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale from scrutiny. You have defended your right to report the story, which I cannot dispute, and have vigorously expressed that those who disagree are killing the messenger or throwing you under the busbut my point was not to indeed do such, but to state that, due to the lives that are affected by this story (his family), and yes, by his sin, which I do not excuse in any way, that it may not have been in good humanity or taste to have reported the story before the church did on April 6. Join Facebook to connect with Diane Coy and others you may know. I was feeling horrible.". {} 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. I will be giving more information as it is vetted. So if you can recommend a Biblically sound local church that would be great. Well I thought perhaps you had grown conveniently deaf at the question and needed me to shout it out so you could hear it clearly and answer it! Flynn, You are a false teacher you said that your Bible said that the SEVEN YEAR tribulation will be. God sees everything. What would Jesus do? 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Mega-churches always have such a high profile for scandal. If someone tried to start a ministry that they had no control over (even Bible studies) they were often shut down. I say years because it is easy to fake a Come to Jesus moment for a year maybe two. Is there a man here who would NOT do the same. PS Connie and Ashleigh (Pastors Gregs wife) have been afflicted with cancer I will ask you all to hold them in prayer this month please. The story has hit the local news in Fort Lauderdale now http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-calvary-chapel-resignation-20140406,0,5071679.story. Youve turned the sad reality of sin into flaming arrows of hate and spite towards eachother instead of being Christ-like and loving the sinner (everyone). There is are discrepancies in CCFTLs numbers, not mine. Man has a dual nature. photos: Screencap via Youtube/Google Street View, The club has now terminated its relationship with Coy, toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows. Unless you live in this area you have no idea the influence BC has had on it. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Probably ended about 4-5 yrs ago, so whoever was doing it afterwards- I have no knowledge of. By the same token, I like the debate but blame others . Thank you for posting such a powerful and healing message. Andy & Barbara, I said earlier (and was alluding to these verses) in apocalyptic literature every time there is a mention of thrones, it is a heavenly scene and not an earthy scene. I lean towards Calvinism but not even close to Dominion-ism. Mark, are you kidding? 5. MLD, I answered you already, in 688, like I answered your baptism error with the house of Cornelius yesterday. Im so glad you kept your eyes on Jesus and didnt let men destroy your faith. Good point. Andy, OK, you go with that but to hold your position you have to call Peter a liar in Acts 2. Ill go first. MLD Daniel 4: Vs 16 Seven times pass over him A time may logically be thought of as a year considering that a year is a natural time unit, the longest one. In 1968, he moved to California building hot rods by day and working as a machinist at Disneyland during the night. What do you disagree with Luther on, just for the sake of argument? If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. Registered in England and Wales 5090917, Christian Today, International House, 24 Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2BN, Evangelical church redirects payments after CofE gay blessing vote, Evangelical church pursues alternative oversight after CofE same-sex blessing vote. The IRS went after Jimmy. She also acknowledged the forms that made clear her refusal to be kept on a ventilator in the event of a medical emergency. he also had an administrative staff that helped him with a thorough and expository message, precept by precept. Im Glad God is in charge and not most Christians, I guess most of us would not have let Peter preach at pentacost so soon after denying Christ! In 2006, Coys church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. One of the gals from Saturday Night live attended- I forget her name and they really used that to their advantage-she was mentioned. No, there are 2 parts to this Gods and mans. A man who cheats does so because he is a cheater and has no respect for his wife. May I test you on this? You are listening to Luther and Augustine. David did not have the risen Jesus supposedly living in his heart, nor the power and anointing of the holy spirit that they claim, as current day proponents of the good news. He got the idea from Andy Stanley to do satellite churches. Looks like the night shift worked some OT last night.. PS He always said that he didnt want to turn anyone away. MLD, satan is bound? Some knew that the building that was built for the H.S. So where do you attend church? Flynn, what else have you learned from Chuck Missler and your Schofield Bible? Even in the chemically altered '70s music business, Coy's appetites were too voracious. Michael says: February 9, 2020 at 7:20 am. They know it is wrong of them to commit adultery if they are married, they know its wrong to steal, wrong to hurt other people etc and they know its right to give money to help the poor and they know its right to be a good Samaritan etc. I wonder if now these people are thinking of us. What is HIS selfish and SATAN centered motive for this exposure?????? Personally I saw through thi scumbag years ago ..he used his popularity to con people and he was smart enough to do itHe never took the word seriously to his heart. Lordship doesnt mean sinless but you cant have Jesus as savior without Him also as Lord they go together. In one case, victims claimed the church knowingly moved a pedophile to another city without warning parents. Long before his epic fall from grace, the pastor used his own struggles with sex and drugs to preach that anyone could find redemption in Jesus. TV ACUTE is a full entertainment site where you find tv series related press releases , promotional photos tv news and movie updates. Read slowly. Not to stir strife, but some of us dont agree and wont be comfortable there. Any constructive criticism was seen as divisive. Sure would make the shame easier to bear. There was too much drama with Kennedys passing at Coral Ridge. All materials are posted on the site strictly for informational and educational purposes! But apparently, any way you get the crowd is OK. #489 Fidel came to Ft Lauderdale with BC but left to start his own church. Sure would make the shame easier to bear.. Did you commit adultery with them? As spring breakers poured into Fort Lauderdale to bong beers, he set up "The Recovery Room" at the Jolly Roger motel, where he offered live music, first aid, and of course Evangelical literature. I hope you reconsider your life and realize there is a more excellent way to live which God wants to give you. I guess it can happen to anyone to be star struck. How I have seen just over the last two days, about where a person goes for Bible interpretation, will make all the difference. This will harden them somewhat but it will pass and they will be better for it. Neo Coral Ridge does not the same doctrinal position as CCFL. Its not slander to point out severe doctrinal errors. That needs to stop and maybe this will be the watershed moment for that to happen. Most commentators will agree that seven times is seven complete revolutions of time, being a unit of a year for each time. Youre boorish behavior reflects poorly on the myriad of folks who are supportive of the Coy family and the value or validity of the teaching ministry he had. Forgive me, I was callous. My point was that I do not put myself in a position to be tempted. I have been tempted to be unfaithful, yeah, and its not funny. IMO, in many ways, this is a good thing. Which sin are you guilty of? What did we get when we were lied about, shunned by others who were too loyal to even ask what happened to us and raked over the hot coals by him and his leadership? Daughter And as you look at these Pastors, one used to run the cafeteria (Did he have any biblical education to become a Pastor)?, one is BCs brother in law, and one is his nieces husband. (The cases were settled out of court.). The inner circle or big givers got to have dinner with DC and BC. As an attendee of Calvary FTL I disagree. Jesus is speaking in narrative form everything he has spoken up to this point is straight narrative, and no symbolism and no figurative speech; 26 Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. 27 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, Drink of it, all of you, 28 for this is my blood of the[c] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. The following day, the victim told the police that she was not ready to proceed with a criminal investigation unless a second person came forward. why do the most ardent Coy defenders have to use capital letters and too much punctuation? No excuses, no buts. There are MANY CC satellite churches in this whole region, all 3 counties, that beam him in via video for Sunday services all of them depend on BCs teaching and preaching. ), and the Christians will take over all the positions of government and usher in the return of Christ, and heres the kicker, all the prophecies have already taken place, 666 on the forehead or right hand is symbolic tooWow so much I missed because according to the preterist the prophecy of the Euphrates river drying up and a 200 million men army and the giants of the east being woken up and islands sinking into the ocean and 70 pound boulders falling from heaven, in a tribulation period never before experienced in the history of man, and all the plagues of revelation, all that has already taken place, yes folks back in 70 AD when Nero, who by the way was the Antichrist, sacked Jerusalem, gee I guess he had all the power of Satan, and the false prophet, well well have to spiritualize that one too. Others who knew of this pastors sin and felt the Lords call to also speak up, had dead birds put in their mailboxes and were threatened in other ways as well. The one thing Id point out is that like so many other CC he was always preaching about behavior as well as keeping our eyes on Jesus. 10 czerwca 2022 Is the IRS coming to take them to jail? Daniel uses the 7s in its proper biblical sense to mean a completeness of time this is not a specific period of time. No there are not. Lets give him room to breathe and an opportunity to make things right with God, then his family before we are so quick to cast stones. She also loves Bode dearly and does everything in her power to help him. You didnt have the integrity and honesty to answer my question, and now you want me to answer yours! I thought it strange not to hear his signature cartoon voices coming over the clock radio in the morning until my daughter told me today what had happened. After what happened in the brand-new episode that aired on March 3, Is Diane Farr departing Fire Country? MLD? Do you think that this is the only sin we are all vulnerable to ? Am I still being censured by MN? Columnist Gray Baskerville called CadZZilla "the most incredible transformation he'd ever witnessed",[5] and in their "History of Hot Rods & Customs" the auto editors of Consumer Guide praised it as "the first really new type of custom since the heyday of the 1950s".[4]. If that board doesnt see evidence of Bob relinquishing his power over this injured and vulnerable group of people in Ft Lauderdale and beyond, then they will have no choice but to release enough of the details to protect the Body from a fallen pastor who has no idea how dangerous he is to a people he claims to have loved. What you are doing is accusing someone you dont know of sins that you know nothing of to deflect guilt from someone you idolize. He resigned because he had no choice. Just one final thing, after youve read those 4 books, just stop, dont go any further. Throwing me under the bus is not a wise or godly decision. Literally, from the time of my outcries it took 10 years, many spiritually manipulated and demonized women, and a pregnant young woman (not his wife) to cause the church and his wife to finally kick him out. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale spokesman Mike Miller said Monday the church was not commenting beyond its statement. anyone check this in the greek? But doctrine doesnt fall into that same category? Surely nobody thinks they just found out at the Sunday afternoon meeting. Coy then moved to an even more debauched scene: Las Vegas. Sheesh, somebody tell that Alex guy to re-open comments. 3rd, there is a difference between millennialism and dispesationalism . The Calvinist teaching does not coincide with Gods nature and Gods love as revealed in Scripture! And I still think that those board members would think that was the best case scenario if that option was on the table. That may have been accomplished through small home groups, but his magnetism and charisma kept a need for a larger building. Antonio, I think you were best served by disagreeing with MLD. But I should know better than to engage with people who hold to replacement theology. That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!. Little sister Ive had my struggles at CC and other churches, Ive walked out of sermons and understand the feeling of not relating to Pastors. It is good if god wants to forgive, show grace and restore Bob Coy. a new church down the street] Against the dysfunctions of the church [ Why cant we all just get along? His family is leaving. 2. The church has 10 campuses around Florida and has hosted numerous evangelical speakers, including evangelist Billy Graham, author and speaker Joni Eareckson Tada and actor Kirk Cameron. He wasnt in any shape to give up a kidney anytime soon, so Jake was his best option. This is not the gospel of Jesus Christ, and the congregation are idol worshipers. As New Times revealed in an investigation published Tuesday, former Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale Pastor Bob Coy who once led the largest megachurch in Florida was accused in 2015 of. http://www.openbible.info/topics/election. Secondly the Bible will say adultery or fornication but fornication can include many types of different types of sexual sin, its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. Anon I always thought it was a collaborative effort mostly with Hickling (the most knowledgeable of the bunch, based out of TN I think ) etc. The transformation that has taken place is that when I sin there is conviction that takes place reminding me that what I have done or thought is wrong. I loved the book and I want yall to pop over, read the review and see reasons why I think you would like it too. They had to buy mens magazines to see those images. He is always hanging out ask him:). 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Your medication seems to wear off right before bedspeak to your physician. God bless. My question was can you recommend a Biblically sound LOCAL church? G, Thank you for your intercession last nightI forgot to turn it off this thread before I went to bed. As Michael said, I care more about the victims than the victimize at this point. This time, Smith and his son Jeff actually turned on their pastor, pushing him out. Force yourself to consider whether He is Who He claims to be. Do you care about anyone but yourself? Krent W, what was the one condition Jesus allowed for a divorce? The statement went on to say that a team of assistant pastors already on staff will maintain their usual rotating schedule as teaching pastors for all services. I especially loved Pastor Bobs teaching. It hardly makes their convictions garbage.. His congregation will continue to thrive and fight the good fight of faith. God forgives immediately upon repentence, so are we going to condemn Bob? The fruit of the message or from the teaching is different than the personal fruit if a person does not heed that message, so the fruit I am talking about, are the hearers, those that heard the message and were saved by the message, and were edified and encouraged by the message, Im talking about those who grew by the doctrine they were taught and not only did they hear the word but also put that word into practice, and if they did then yes, we will see the fruit of that doctrine as they grow to also produce fruit! The woman got away without a scratch. I also pray he has the right people alongside him-people that truly care about him-like we did. what is your motive for this? In case of her demise, she promised not to file a lawsuit. Even though Jesus said that all of the OT was about him, you pre mil dispies say no Jesus, there are still outstanding promises to Israel you owe them.
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